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 Post subject: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:13 am 
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For many years NTN/BT knew how to get the most bang for their buck on Super Bowl Sunday. Originally they had two hours or so of lead in to the game of Super Bowl trivia. Then when there was a sports premium game on Sunday they moved it to the slot immediately prior to the SB. Then of course everybody played QB1 to the biggest game of the season because it was the default on channel A. And I promise you every single person in a bar that day is going to watch the game and not there solely to play trivia. Everything revolves around the game on that one day.

So this brings me to the events of yesterday. SIQ airs at it's normal time in the middle of the SB and has a mere 2183 players. QB1 is relegated to the sports channel, a place that 10 people on the planet know how to program in. It is available on channel A but is not the default. Therefore 1395 people get to play QB1 during the Super Bowl, a ridiculously small number. But the hilarious thing is that the CD game immediately before the SB scored 5010 players!

Does anybody at BT with any power at all realize the huge numbers that could have been garnered by having some sort of SB lead in game(s) and then actually made QB1 available to the millions of people watching the game? A game that attracted the largest U.S. audience of all time? Sometimes I think BT is trying to see how few players they can attract for every game.

Oh, I almost forgot. Tried to look at the QB1 scores today but was unable because the QB1 HOF hasn't worked all fucking year.

Something tells me that if I continue to give a shit about things like this, the next time I'm in SoCal LILJOL will be bailing me out of jail after I throw a hissy fit in Carlsbad.

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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:56 am 
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-BO- wrote:
For many years NTN/BT knew how to get the most bang for their buck on Super Bowl Sunday. Originally they had two hours or so of lead in to the game of Super Bowl trivia. Then when there was a sports premium game on Sunday they moved it to the slot immediately prior to the SB. Then of course everybody played QB1 to the biggest game of the season because it was the default on channel A. And I promise you every single person in a bar that day is going to watch the game and not there solely to play trivia. Everything revolves around the game on that one day.

So this brings me to the events of yesterday. SIQ airs at it's normal time in the middle of the SB and has a mere 2183 players. QB1 is relegated to the sports channel, a place that 10 people on the planet know how to program in. It is available on channel A but is not the default. Therefore 1395 people get to play QB1 during the Super Bowl, a ridiculously small number. But the hilarious thing is that the CD game immediately before the SB scored 5010 players!

Does anybody at BT with any power at all realize the huge numbers that could have been garnered by having some sort of SB lead in game(s) and then actually made QB1 available to the millions of people watching the game? A game that attracted the largest U.S. audience of all time? Sometimes I think BT is trying to see how few players they can attract for every game.

Oh, I almost forgot. Tried to look at the QB1 scores today but was unable because the QB1 HOF hasn't worked all fucking year.

Something tells me that if I continue to give a shit about things like this, the next time I'm in SoCal LILJOL will be bailing me out of jail after I throw a hissy fit in Carlsbad.

BO


I was shocked at how few people were playing on Sunday. Even the Buzztime games, our scores were decent but not great but were still in the top 10 due to lack of players. Then the same thing for Sports IQ. I don't get out on Sundays alot but I really enjoy SIQ and wish it would garner a bigger audience.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:15 am 
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Why do you bother ?

Good question. I used to try as well.

Which paraphrases the question, if you talk to a company that has no ears, have you made a sound ?

I pretty much ceased bothering; they'll do what they will.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:53 am 
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-BO- wrote:
For many years NTN/BT knew how to get the most bang for their buck on Super Bowl Sunday. Originally they had two hours or so of lead in to the game of Super Bowl trivia. Then when there was a sports premium game on Sunday they moved it to the slot immediately prior to the SB. Then of course everybody played QB1 to the biggest game of the season because it was the default on channel A. And I promise you every single person in a bar that day is going to watch the game and not there solely to play trivia. Everything revolves around the game on that one day.

Ah, if only NTN/BT would make even a lil effort to bring back not only those lead in games, but also more than just one Super Bowl Topix during the lead in week. :roll:

-BO- wrote:
Something tells me that if I continue to give a shit about things like this, the next time I'm in SoCal LILJOL will be bailing me out of jail after I throw a hissy fit in Carlsbad.

BO

Hells bells, like this lil old grumpy cheap bastard is going to bail your grumpy young bastard ass out. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:09 pm 
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At Hardtimes Germantown MD we had both channels on.

We were mostly playing the trivia games and switching over to QB1 for some plays between games.

We got 7th for SIQ and 59th in QB1 playing a limited number of plays. That shouldn't be, back in the day a 14k wouldn't be a top 2000.

We easily made the top 20 on the trivia channel all day and night long. Saw Dayton OH, Brandon FL, one of the Houston bars and Manchester CT up there a fair amount, oh and that place in Indy. :roll:

We don't play on Sundays much so not sure if that was a normal number of bars or not. Thinking many bars didn't even have BT on that night for some reason. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
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The last time I played trivia on Superbowl Sunday two years ago we got 55 gold medals that didn't count due to <1000 players.
I assumed that most folks were playing QB1.
It looks like I won't need to worry about that happening anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:13 pm 
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spotes wrote:
The last time I played trivia on Superbowl Sunday two years ago we got 55 gold medals that didn't count due to <1000 players.
I assumed that most folks were playing QB1.
It looks like I won't need to worry about that happening anymore.


I now wonder if there will be any Oscar games now.

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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
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Here on the west coast scoring golds after the 8:00 countdown (Sun - Thu) has always been tough due to frequent <1000 players, but Sunday dropped to <1000 after the 7:00 countdown. P.S. We did not play a complete QB1 due to a programming snafu and I am unsure what time it ended.

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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:36 am 
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teverett wrote:

I now wonder if there will be any Oscar games now.


I thought they haven't even done that the last couple of years?


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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:28 am 
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teverett wrote:
spotes wrote:
The last time I played trivia on Superbowl Sunday two years ago we got 55 gold medals that didn't count due to <1000 players.
I assumed that most folks were playing QB1.
It looks like I won't need to worry about that happening anymore.


I now wonder if there will be any Oscar games now.


There have not been Oscar games for at least the last 4 years. Maybe longer.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:08 pm 
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FrankC wrote:
teverett wrote:
spotes wrote:
The last time I played trivia on Superbowl Sunday two years ago we got 55 gold medals that didn't count due to <1000 players.
I assumed that most folks were playing QB1.
It looks like I won't need to worry about that happening anymore.


I now wonder if there will be any Oscar games now.


There have not been Oscar games for at least the last 4 years. Maybe longer.


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Not much attention to ANY special events. World Cup four years ago had a game built around it. Nothing this past year. Nothing big for Super Bowl.

And the last Oscar game, I was still living in Virginia (I'm pretty sure).

I'm now on WVBTO IV, and wondering if it is worth the effort. At least, it might benefit a local, non-franchised establishment.


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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:32 am 
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tiefly wrote:
Not much attention to ANY special events. World Cup four years ago had a game built around it. Nothing this past year. Nothing big for Super Bowl.

And the last Oscar game, I was still living in Virginia (I'm pretty sure).

I'm now on WVBTO IV, and wondering if it is worth the effort. At least, it might benefit a local, non-franchised establishment.


It's really sad that you'd have that kind of attitude in hosting one of these events but I can definitely see where you're coming from. The company doesn't care about anything anymore it seems. It's this very piss poor attitude from them is why I'm making it a priority to make both events this year in case one or both of them seem to go away....not to mention the company itself possibly.

I used to love when there was just a channel A and a channel B. We were at a BW-3 during the playoffs and so wanted to put QB-1 on for both games on a saturday (wild card weekend). I had to miss the first game because there were people playing both trivia and poker so couldn't cancel one of them to put channel C on. The second game, I finally get it switched over after showing the locations general manager how to do it (yep he didn't have a clue there even was a channel c) and we get to play through the first half...comes to the 3rd quarter and out of nowhere switches back to Channel B. I didn't think anyone had done this because in order to kill a channel it comes up on the screen and I didn't see anything like this, plus I had to show management how to do it so I doubt they did it. That's still a mystery to me. so we logged back into channel A, played a couple trivia games and left....pissed off. I've never seen a company want or try to fail like they obviously do. Unreal.

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 Post subject: Re: Why do I Bother?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:52 am 
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Tiamat wrote:
tiefly wrote:
Not much attention to ANY special events. World Cup four years ago had a game built around it. Nothing this past year. Nothing big for Super Bowl.

And the last Oscar game, I was still living in Virginia (I'm pretty sure).

I'm now on WVBTO IV, and wondering if it is worth the effort. At least, it might benefit a local, non-franchised establishment.


It's really sad that you'd have that kind of attitude in hosting one of these events but I can definitely see where you're coming from. The company doesn't care about anything anymore it seems. It's this very piss poor attitude from them is why I'm making it a priority to make both events this year in case one or both of them seem to go away....not to mention the company itself possibly.

I used to love when there was just a channel A and a channel B. We were at a BW-3 during the playoffs and so wanted to put QB-1 on for both games on a saturday (wild card weekend). I had to miss the first game because there were people playing both trivia and poker so couldn't cancel one of them to put channel C on. The second game, I finally get it switched over after showing the locations general manager how to do it (yep he didn't have a clue there even was a channel c) and we get to play through the first half...comes to the 3rd quarter and out of nowhere switches back to Channel B. I didn't think anyone had done this because in order to kill a channel it comes up on the screen and I didn't see anything like this, plus I had to show management how to do it so I doubt they did it. That's still a mystery to me. so we logged back into channel A, played a couple trivia games and left....pissed off. I've never seen a company want or try to fail like they obviously do. Unreal.

--Tony


Tony, I don't mind putting together the WVBTO. However, it's harder to reach folks to send invites. On the thread about the new content manager, Vlad states that he wants to use "social networking" to enhance and promote the product. It just seems odd to me that BT appeared to be ahead of the curve when the site had the forums...a type of social networking that allowed people to communicate on the threads or send a PM. But that is now gone.

I'm looking at the BT site and can't find a way to contact folks and let them know the WVBTO date or invite folks who are not on this site. The "MY Buddy" feature is about worthless to me. And I just noticed the special "clubs" (not sure what they are really called) the other day when trying to let my friend Paul know about WVBTO. Hell, if I knew e-mail addresses, why wouldn't I just e-mail them {OK, I'm sure that there is some easy way to get my message to certain folks that I'm missing, but couldit be any easier than the PM feature was. You could PM or e-mail or both!?).

Add to that the lack of PEOPLE at BT that would help me out or answer our questions, like Jeremy and Mary. I'm hoping the local rep gets back to the manager at the Sports Page to send the PMs necessary for the little soiree. (TOLLE said that the rep in Cincy did a nice job last year & it did seem to go smoothly).

I guess I'm just getting old and can't keep up with all the new "apps" and technology. My life has not been worse for never "tweeting" and those of y'all on Facebook know that I do not spend much time there (if I haven't "friended" some of y'all, it's mostly because I'm not on the site very much. Mostly.)

In the end, I bother because I enjoy doing some thinking with my drinking and don't like to drink alone. The BT boards allows me to fool myself into thinking that I'm not drinking alone (despite some tea & Dr. Pepper sippers out there...ya bat rastards).


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