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 Post subject: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:09 pm 
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Just saw this on FB...yes I know I hate to say I WAS reading FB ackkkkkkkkk.

So between shutting down Rochester Mills for the SIX tourney and this, maybe BT is cutting down on the cheaters.

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Tom Palka - What if I present proof that a team who is competing in the Chi City Showdown Traveling Trophy tournament is BORGING?? Will they be disqualified from winning?
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NTN Buzztime, Inc. - And by borging you mean using their laptops to learn the answers as they come up? - Basically we would need to prove that they are cheating... so we would likely send the players a warning as well as one of our reps to the location at the time of the competition to check it out. If we can prove that they are cheating then yes, we can disqualify them.

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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:24 pm 
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EGADS!!!

I wonder what BT has to say about using the phone app to get answers, due to lag issues. I would think that this is going on as much as laptop use.


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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:29 pm 
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BUD wrote:
Just saw this on FB...yes I know I hate to say I WAS reading FB ackkkkkkkkk.

So between shutting down Rochester Mills for the SIX tourney and this, maybe BT is cutting down on the cheaters.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tom Palka - What if I present proof that a team who is competing in the Chi City Showdown Traveling Trophy tournament is BORGING?? Will they be disqualified from winning?
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NTN Buzztime, Inc. - And by borging you mean using their laptops to learn the answers as they come up? - Basically we would need to prove that they are cheating... so we would likely send the players a warning as well as one of our reps to the location at the time of the competition to check it out. If we can prove that they are cheating then yes, we can disqualify them.

Only problem is borging is not cheating. Now, I would approve of the DQ but if that's the stance BT wants to take, the rules must be rewritten.

Bud, do you know exactly what BT did with the Rochester Mills situation?


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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:29 pm 
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BUD wrote:
Just saw this on FB...yes I know I hate to say I WAS reading FB ackkkkkkkkk.

So between shutting down Rochester Mills for the SIX tourney and this, maybe BT is cutting down on the cheaters.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Tom Palka - What if I present proof that a team who is competing in the Chi City Showdown Traveling Trophy tournament is BORGING?? Will they be disqualified from winning?
Like · · 21 hours ago ·

NTN Buzztime, Inc. - And by borging you mean using their laptops to learn the answers as they come up? - Basically we would need to prove that they are cheating... so we would likely send the players a warning as well as one of our reps to the location at the time of the competition to check it out. If we can prove that they are cheating then yes, we can disqualify them.

Only problem is borging is not cheating. Now, I would approve of the DQ but if that's the stance BT wants to take, the rules must be rewritten.

Bud, do you know exactly what BT did with the Rochester Mills situation?


I only know what was on FB. The BT FB rep, who I think is KrazyKat, said she was sending HOHO a warning email about the iphone cheating and then would have the BT techs reset both Rochester Mills & ESM's computers to get them back in synch.

Then as we know they haven't reported since the 26th. Don't really know if they just stopped playing when the lag was gone or if the system was shut down or maybe they dropped the system. In any case it seems to have worked, but we'll see tomorrow night.
SRO OT may be in for a surprise in the Whales SIX tourney, but I doubt it. I think Rochester Mills is done.

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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:08 pm 
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-BO- wrote:
Only problem is borging is not cheating. Now, I would approve of the DQ but if that's the stance BT wants to take, the rules must be rewritten.


I agree with you on a technical basis, but I know for sure a few of the BT employees consider it flat out cheating. I'd have to see if I can find where I saved it, but I know that was even said publicly once. But, yes, all rules should be explicit, even though I think the spirit is clear.


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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:26 pm 
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Dante wrote:
-BO- wrote:
Only problem is borging is not cheating. Now, I would approve of the DQ but if that's the stance BT wants to take, the rules must be rewritten.


I agree with you on a technical basis, but I know for sure a few of the BT employees consider it flat out cheating. I'd have to see if I can find where I saved it, but I know that was even said publicly once. But, yes, all rules should be explicit, even though I think the spirit is clear.

Oh sure, I think most of us know that. But their opinion means nothing. As far as contests go, all that matters is the written word. Also, Wheelie publicly stated that it was not cheating. Which also means nothing. As Dalton says in Road House, "Opinions vary".

Now, they could possibly use the "as solely determined by BT" clause to do so, but it would be cut and dried if they rewrote the rules accurately. But they really can't change the rules in the middle of a contest. Plus, BT has been aware of this for years now. They shouldn't act like "We can't believe any team would do this".


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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:37 pm 
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-BO- wrote:

Now, they could possibly use the "as solely determined by BT" clause to do so, but it would be cut and dried if they rewrote the rules accurately. .


They could also use that clause to rule out any team with Stadium in its name! :D)


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 Post subject: Re: BT says borging is grounds for disqualification
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:11 am 
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Dante wrote:
-BO- wrote:

Now, they could possibly use the "as solely determined by BT" clause to do so, but it would be cut and dried if they rewrote the rules accurately. .


They could also use that clause to rule out any team with Stadium in its name! :D)


Or that spell café as though it rhymed with safe! :lol:

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